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  * This appears to be a prt of the global wiki config; it must wait until the moinmoin upgrade (when we get squeeze), unless you feel a genuine urgency about it.
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 * Hierarchy is anti-wiki :( Is there some context in which you'd want to discuss a non-software-related "generic window manager"? If not, why the rename? Subpages may make sense for self-contained projects but they inhibit easy linking
  * There is no such thing as antiwiki except nonwiki. Categorizing it exposes the upstream trees to the user for easy viewing; is this not also a goal of wiki, of easily interrelating topics? Also, I guess I should reply to this comment on your user page instead of below if hierarchy is antiwiki :)
  * "Easily interrelating topics" requires easy linking which subpages break. I can no longer just smash words together and hope for a link to a relevant page; instead I have to make an explicit choice to make a link, remember which section the page was arbitrarily placed into (is GnuGo in Games or in Software?) and decide on the link text (since Section/SubSection/ActualPage isn't so good), and in the end I might as well be writing plain HTML. This problem was solved in 1996 with the category system -- for the GWM page, for instance, just add "CategorySoftware" to the bottom. Then looking at backlinks for CategorySoftware shows all software-related pages, and the page text can contain a manually-maintained index. (Some wikis define a special link type for category-membership links.) This provides a topic-based indexing system while conserving easy linking and permitting pages to belong to multiple topics. See [[http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiCategories|WikiWiki:WikiCategories]].
 * Heaven forbid you should be required to put thought into the organization of a body of data. Or to search for a topic first before "smashing[ing] words together" to hope for a relevant link. The many-to-one/one-to-many argument holds some weight, though. Feel free to rename any pages you see fit.
  * That's exactly correct. It inhibits one's ability to easily create connections between disparate topics if the structure of the namespace is too complex. If I am writing about a concept which is pertinent to the mission of this wiki, I do want to be able to smash words together and have a fair chance of linking to the correct page if it exists. If it doesn't exist, I can always follow the link to create the page. I consider [[http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/AccidentalLinking|AccidentalLinking]] to be a feature, not a bug.

==== Discussions ====
 * [[/Discussion#IntertwingledHypertexts|Intertwingled Hypertexts]], concerning the use of subpages versus free links (summary: use both in moderation, thinking about how the wiki's structure will best benefit from your choice)

Being the wiki home of Steve Killen,

or

A place to collaborate in an arbitrary number of projects.

Greetings and welcome! I invite you to participate to whatever extent you feel comfortable in this experiment of mine. The About page will tell you what's going on, including how to edit.

-- SteveKillen

Admin to-do (requests taken here!)

  • Style footnotes
  • Linking to "tel:" URIs doesn't work. I think this could be fixed by changing the value of url_schemas, as described in HelpOnConfiguration

    • This appears to be a prt of the global wiki config; it must wait until the moinmoin upgrade (when we get squeeze), unless you feel a genuine urgency about it.
  • Can someone make a favicon? Here's a first attempt: BtTempleton/CalefactionFavicon.png

  • Fix your logo css -- ClintonEbadi

    • Inserting manual newlines to avoid covering page content with the logo is a sign of bad style ;) If you want to keep the logo floating into the content area you have a few options... (installing firebug makes it pretty easy to mess around with the css in the browser with immediate effect welcome to the future).

    • Add clear: left to either #page or #content. #page is uglier: the page border also moves below the logo. In either case there is some whitespace to the right of the logo.

    • Add clear: left to at least div.contents. This would solve the immediate issue of obscured TOC lines, but then what about e.g. the horizontal rule below a heading and other cases?

    • Add clear: left to #content div. I'm not sure what the overall effect of that would be, but it would make most things that need to clear around the image do so.

    • Another suggestion: Move the logo (and search box?) into the sidebar, something like CommunityWiki's layout.

Discussions

  • Intertwingled Hypertexts, concerning the use of subpages versus free links (summary: use both in moderation, thinking about how the wiki's structure will best benefit from your choice)

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