BtTempleton has submitted a proposal to complete eir work on Guile-Elisp during Summer 2011.

2010 GSoC work

• Initial message

• August status update

• Another status update

• Final update

Lisp-1 / Lisp-2

> Currently Elisp symbols are Scheme symbols, and their value and function
> cell contents are looked up in submodules of (language elisp runtime).
> This works well enough for now, but it will get quite ugly if Elisp is
> ever integrated with Guile's module system to any degree. Every module
> containing Elisp function bindings might need to have a 'function-cell'
> submodule, for example; an uninterned symbol could be used to avoid name
> clashes, but it would still pollute the namespace. It would be cleaner
> to maintain multiple hash tables in every module, and then e.g. (@
> (emacs) set-buffer function) could refer to the function binding.
>
> But here's another alternative: Guile already has function and plist
> slots in symbols, so clearly it's okay to waste a few bytes for features
> nobody uses. (: Why not keep the extra cells in variable objects, or in
> a new type of variable object? (I call this option "big variables" or
> "bigvars".) Guile's double cells are just the right size; there's enough
> room for a function cell as well as a pointer to a properties object,
> which would contain the plist cell and implementation-internal
> annotations. I've implemented the (trivial) libguile side of this, but
> at least Tree-IL, the module system, and the VM would also need to be
> modified to support this, if it's even a good idea.

Hmmm. Yes, I think this is a good idea. Does it make sense to be a
subtype of variables -- that is, with the same tc7, but with a flag in
the first word? Then we could make Guile's variables all be treated as
having a value binding already. Perhaps the new variable-function-ref /
toplevel-function-ref / etc opcodes (you are adding them, yes? :) should
return the value if it's a narrow variable holding a procedure. We would
need toplevel-value-define / toplevel-function-define as well, to ensure
that the binding is a wide variable.

Scope

> I've been reading old CL proposals regarding global lexical bindings,
> and I think I now understand why this can't work in Guile. Previously I
> wasn't considering the existence of a *global* environment, only lexical
> and dynamic bindings, and hence I wasn't understanding the bindings
> lookup order required for this. Scheme only allows LG lookup -- it looks
> for variables in the lexical environment, then falls back to the global
> environment.
>
> Globally-bound Elisp and CL variables are pervasively special, and
> cannot be lexically bound. Globally-bound CL functions are pervasively
> lexical (IIUC), and cannot be dynamically bound. Elisp bindings have
> only global bindings, and cannot be lexically or dynamically bound. But
> for Elisp function bindings, we need a globally-bound variable which can
> be bound both lexically and dynamically. To allow dynamic shadowing of a
> global lexical (but not pervasively lexical!) variable, the
> implementation must do LDG lookup -- checking in the dynamic environment
> after the lexical environment but before the global environment, which
> is distinct from both the lexical and dynamic environments. But Scheme
> doesn't *have* a true dynamic environment; it only simulates it by
> storing fluids (i.e., indices into local dynamic state objects) in the
> global environment, which of course means Guile Elisp can't have a
> dynamic binding for a variable while retaining the global binding.
> Therefore, it appears to me that Guile needs a real dynamic environment
> if Elisp function bindings are to be non-special without breaking cl.el
> FLET.

Aliases

> Elisp has both defalias and defvaralias. My first thought was to assign
> the same variable object to multiple names in an obarray; that works for
> the submodule-based implementation of symbol cells currently used, but
> not for the bigvars implementation. It would be useful to have a special
> object like SCM_UNDEFINED to mark cells to be redirected, but if that's
> not practical, redirected cells can remain SCM_UNBOUND, redirection
> information information can be stored in the property cell, references
> to aliases can be processed in an error handler, and Elisp setq can
> check the property cell for every assignment. I think I'll implement a
> proper def(var)alias next; subr.el and other basic libraries load with
> defalias = fset, but Emacs implements buffer- and frame-local variables
> using a similar technique so this will make it easier to implement that
> when it becomes necessary.

Nil

I'll have to go through my notes, but I'm not sure #nil is the best solution

Miscellaneous

Trying to compile the invalid Tree-IL program (begin) used to lead to weird errors

See the "elisp glimpses" email for some notes on a package system for Elisp

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